Showing posts with label nagasena. Show all posts
Showing posts with label nagasena. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Tao te Ching: 42

Tao produced the One.
The One produced the two.
The two produced the three.
And the three produced the ten thousand things.
The ten thousand things carry the yin and embrace the
yang, and through the blending of the material force (ch'i)
they achieve harmony.
People hate to be the orphaned, the lonely ones, and the unworthy.
And yet kings and lords call themselves by these names.
Thereore it is often the case that thing gain by
losing and lose by gaining.
What other have taught, I teach also;
"Violent and fierce people do not die a natural death."
I shall make this the father (basis or starting point) of my teaching.

The One is usually thought to be the ultimate thing. In chapter 25, Lao Tzu calls it Nature. The two are Yin and Yang, or the Feminine and the Masculine. The Dark and the Light. The three are Nature and Yin and Yang, and the way that they meld together makes up the ten thousand things. We all have some Yin and some Yang and we are all part of Nature. No matter how we name things, and we do and this divides things as explained in chapter 2, we are all still a part of Nature.

There is a path of Buddhist thought that says that we are nothing but the conjunction of five skandhas, or aggregates. The skandhas are form, feeling, perception, volition, and consciousness. Perception isn't limited to the senses, but also how we perceive with our minds. So perception is also cognition. Volition isn't simply potential, though it is that, it is also impulse and action. The way these things combine make up us. It is a unique combination, but we cannot say we are any of these things. Remember the chariot and Nagasena, when he discusses the skandhas. The Yin and Yang are a part of Nature and yet distinct from it in the same way.

In my mind, this means that we are all the same stuff. If someone wants to call it Nature, the Universe, or God, it doesn't really matter. I think of it as a sort of sheet. Imagine you stick your five fingers up under the sheet and bring them together so that 5 parts of the cloth all touch each other. The union of the five parts is us, thinking we're something separate from the sheet. In a way we are, but in a much larger sense we are all the same thing and those fingers are only temporarily holding us there. If they move, all of us that was there is still there, just in a different configuration.

The quote at the end of the chapter, though it has no attribution because it's such a common aphorism, is no less true. It is probably more true because so many people in so many cultures say the same. Some look at it as Karma, Reversion, some look at it as the Golden Rule, some look at it as the Rule of Three. Physics even has this, with Newton's 3rd law. Everything has consequences. You are what you do. You are a part of everything, so remember, you also do everything.

That last thought keeps the greed monster low. I already have this, or that, why do I need it again?

Sometimes it works.

Friday, October 23, 2009

Nagasena and The Chariot

I have decided to write about this after chapter 39 of the Tao te Ching because there is a reference to this parable in the ending lines:
Therefore enumerate all the parts of a chariot as you may, and you still have no chariot.
The Tao te Ching is hundreds of years older (conservatively 150, but  more likely 450 years), and yet we have this reference to the chariot. Perhaps this shouldn't be alarming. After all, Plato had a parable about the chariot and we can't lay this at his footsteps. Still, it could be a case of historical revisionism. It likely is, as other translations use a completely different line that does not even mention chariots.

The story begins with King Milinda visiting the Sankheyya hermitage. Milinda was an Indo-Greek king from northern India, and after traveling to the hermitage, he was greeted by Nagasena.

King Milinda: How is your reverence known and what is your name, sir?

Nagasena: I am known as Nagasena, great king, and everyone calls me Nagasena. Even though my parents named me Nagasena, the word 'Nagasena' is just a name, a label, a series of sounds, a concept. It is just a name. There is no real person to be apprehended.

King: (addresses everyone) Listen up everyone, Nagasena tells me that he is not a real person. How can I agree to that? (to Nagasena) If no person can be apprehended, then who gives you alms? Who eats and takes medicine? Who meditates and guards morality? Who kills, steals, and rapes? If someone were to kill you, Nagasena, wouldn't that be murder? What is this 'Nagasena'? Are you the hairs on your head?

Nagasena: No, great king.

King: The hair on your body?


Nagasena: No, great king.

King: What about your muscles, bone, brain, organs, or any other part of your physical body? Is this Nagasena?


Nagasena: No, great king.

King: Perhaps it is this whole form, or a combination of this form, feelings, perceptions, impulses, and consciousness?


Nagasena: No, great king.

King: Is it something outside of the combination of things?


Nagasena: No, great king.

King: (to everyone) I can discover no Nagasena at all. Just a sound, but who is the real Nagasena? Everyone, your reverence has told a lie. There is no Nagasena!

Nagasena: Your majesty, I notice that you have been brought up in great comfort. If you walked here under the noon sun, on the sharp rocks and burning sands, then your feet would be hurt and you would be tired. So how did you come, on foot or on a horse?

King: I came on a chariot.

Nagasena: If you came on a chariot, please explain what a chariot is. Is the pole the chariot?

King: No, reverend sir.

Nagasena: Is it the wheels, or the frame, or the yoke, or any of the parts?


King: No, reverend sir.


Nagasena: Is it the combination of the parts? If we laid out the wheels and the frame and the yoke and all the parts, would that be a chariot?


King: No, reverend sir.


Nagasena: Then is it outside of this combination of parts?


King: No, reverend sir.


Nagasena: Then, ask as I do, I can't discover a chariot. Chariot seems to be just a mere sound. Where is this chariot? Your majesty has told a lie!

Greeks: (applaud) How will you get out of this, your Majesty?

King: Nagasena, I have not told a lie. It is in the dependency and interworking of all the parts that you have a chariot. A pile of parts isn't enough. It is when they all work together that you have this conceptual term, sound, and name of a chariot.

Nagasena: Your majesty is exactly right about the chariot. It is just so with me. Nagasena is the working of all the parts of the body and the five skandhas that make me. But in ultimate reality, however, the person still isn't caught.

King: Well played sir. Well played.

I paraphrased it from my books, and there is a decent online copy here: The Questions of King Milinda.

I'll refer to this post when we get to dependent arising  and Buddhism, but I wanted to explain the reference so that it could be seen in the context of chapter 39. He's saying, like Nagasena, that a pile of parts does not make up a chariot. You have to have the base before you have the thing.

Thursday, October 22, 2009

Tao te Ching: 39

Of those that obtained the One:
Heaven obtained the one and became clear.
Earth obtained the One and became tranquil.
The spiritual beings obtained the One and became divine.
The valley obtained the One and became full.
The myriad things obtained the One and became full.
Kings and barons obtained the One and became rulers (cheng) of the empire.
What made them so is the One.
If heaven had not thus become clear,
It would soon crack.
If the earth had not thus become tranquil,
It would soon be shaken.
If the spiritual beings had not become divine,
They would soon wither away.
If the valley had not thus become full,
It would soon become exhausted.
If the myriad things had not thus lived and grown,
They would soon become extinct.
If kings and barons had not thus become honorable and high in position,
They would soon fall.
Therefore humble station is the basis of honor.
The low is the foundation of the high.
For this reason kings and barons call themselves orphaned, the lonely ones, the unworthy.
Is this not regarding humble station the basis of honor?
Is it not?
Therefore enumerate all the parts of a chariot as you may, and you still have no chariot.
Rather than jingle like the jade,
Rumble like the rocks.

Remember that the Tao dwells in the lowest of places like water. It is forever the base and it dwells in the valleys. Do we worry about the sky cracking or the earth shaking on a physical level? Perhaps not nearly so much as we once did. The lesson still stands though: all things are supported on the lowest level or they cannot reach the heights that they aspire to.

Lao Tzu says that the missing element is the Tao.

I think this question has been around for nearly as long as humanity, or at least human consciousness. What makes us different than the stuff around us? We have answered with the idea of the soul. Lao Tzu answers not with the soul, but the Tao.

The chariot reference at the bottom is sometimes translated as "Supreme praise is no praise", which is catchy and short. I like it very much and it is easy to remember. I left in the chariot reference it is a link to one of my favorite parables. How odd that it would be a Buddhist parable from around 150 B.C.E. called The Chariot. I will address Nagasena and the parable in my next post, instead of the next chapter of the Tao. It will resume normally after that.